Crashing The Indian Remix Market.

i don't really like talking in these debatable market threads. but the fact that some of you say people mix the same thing over and over and customers would stop buying for that reason is really "funny" in a sense. your acting like new music doesn't come out everyday to remix. and before somebody says "new music will never be better than old," think about it in the sense that you can take a new song thats no good at all and if your remix is good it can be a hit. just saying...

 

thats true. this doesnt agree with the new songs part, but some of the old songs that stylistic remixes are the ugliest songs... those songs have a reason not to be heard anymore. yuckkk lol. but still, his remixes are hits. his remixes make them likeable. thats why many of these ppl run after n fight for the originals lol. but maybe it requires just too much effort to try again...

 

Well Speaking From Experience, When I'm Chilling With People Old And New, We're All Sick Of The Same Remixed Songs. Most Of The Time I End Up Playing My Indian Originals Which I Enjoy More, And Some Chutney Once In A Blue. The Market Apparently Is Missing Something. If This Topic Would Of Came Up A Few Months Back, I Would Of Said Let The Indian Remix Market Crash And Burn, I Wouldn't Of Cared. But I've Seen A Couple Of New Talent, For Example, Hurricane Swizz, Shotty, DJ Jones (I Know He's Been Out, But I'm Referring To Burn De Floor, Lovely, etc.). And Thats Shows Some Promise.

People Always Run To Stylistic Cause The Man Is Original. I Mean Come On, Bar Anthem, Under De Maro, Bring De Bhariat, Etc...! That Was ALL ORIGINAL! And He Did It Sweet Too. . . So Think About It, Maybe I'm Wrong, But Its A Given That Any CD Stylistic Comes Out With Its GOnna Sell. PEOPLE WANT THE ORIGINAL CD!!! The Same Goes With Indiflo Mix-Men. . . Once Again, The Reason Being Is That They Don't Remix Songs That These Other DJz Come Out With.

 

since wayyy back since ivs first cd, weve been hitting it differently all the time

i my self never remix the same old, its not that i dont want to, its because i dont want to hear the same shit over and over, like some people do, so i remix for my self rather then caring if the cd will sell 10,000 pieces.
i dont take anyones opinion of what i should do for a cd, because if thats the case take that ideal and use it for your self.

now if you constantly put out nice indian songs on a cd, tracks that people havent heard, theres a large chance that the cd wont do good.
so me myself have learned that i need to put a little of everything.
usually does good, in terms of giving everyone a taste.

bust de dance hit a niche of people that were looking for "that kinda" cd.
imho ive never heard anyone tell me that damn yo this cd is shit.
the worst i have heard was, wow ive never heard these songs, its an ok cd.
then 2 weeks later here man damn i love the cd i love the songs, because the person just let the chunes grow on them.
so for me, that bust de dance cd may have not sold allot of copies and made business for who ever, but for me was a break out cd and slammed my ass into concrete for my style of remixing and claiming who i am.

some the cds you refer dream, they arent hit's.

at this point in the remix world
no one will be having hits for atleast another 2 years, just because it wont sell due to bootleggers.
it will probably sell 10000 but not right from the distributor.

you gotta realize dream, allot of djs are making there cds for people.
and people tend to listen to shit over and over and over, while music man and hardcore hindi fans branch out.
some these "remixers" are more like people who just learned how to do it from another "remixer"
so they remix what THEY know, and what they know is not much.

some guys just download there entire cd tracklisting and make and remix it and call it a cd.
and thats cool. nothing wrong with that. believe it or not these cds are sometimes hits. even bigger then what indiflo or stylistic or who ever puts out as of recently.

now someone who know music will go out get records get the albums dub them into wav get working drop it into session reorganize it edit it
drops songs add songs move them around get dubs done master it listen to it remaster it again go back edit it move songs again master it and then its done.

so you see, those things dont mean shit to people.
they can never understand what it would take to make a cd of that level.
if they dont like the songs regardless of how extravagant the beat is its not a cd of there standard.

look at all the remixer who are out there right now and how many of them werent remixers previously before bhariat.
look at how many of them that have stepped in and just diluted the scene with a bunch of banga shit.
look at how many of them who dont even improve cd to cd.
its just the same rigmarole.

theres only one person to blame for it.
there are those who know who's fault it is.

i remember way back when getting into "kbis" was like a mission.
it was like a rare thing. i remember when getting into kbis was like well what can you bring to kbis or do for kbis?

at this point anyone with 500 dollars if that can make a cd put it out either break even or make some loot

thats why i dont even bother with certain cds, because ive heard it all and i stick to listening to the ones that i know are worthwhile, i dont sample cds
its pointless most guys arent brining quality to the table.

it is what it is at the end of the damn day

 

I think its time for a content change. Try selling the music electronically with DRM locks or how about trying to buy the rights to these songs and pooling the rights to different crews or labels. Sell the stuff on USB keys or something. Maybe its time to move beyond the Remix CD market and the Club market and go worldwide into a media centric venture that can provide a good enough income. Worst comes to worse you can whore out the CD's to advertisers and have them drop their name at every transition.

 

Unfortunately the older crowd that I target don't know what a DRM is hell I don't know what it is.lol I know I got some suggestion about MP3 cds also same thing, the regular folks will not get that. And as far as buying the rights for the songs, trust me this cd business don't make that kinda of money. I think what eventually is going to happen is you are going to see alot more djs put out there own cds by themself and sell it to the stores. This way they can sell it cheaper because they will not have a djs cost involve.

 

not just the old crowd,there's alot of youngsters our age that dont bother to come and search for cds online,that go to the stores to buy cds. majority of them dont know what the crap drm or the difference between a mp3 cd and a regular cd are either believe it or not.

plus,this website is majority remixers and djs or people who collect music you guys opinions is very different from the people who go buy their groceries at a indian market and pick up some cds along the way. most of the people who buy cds are casual listeners, who dont know shit about hearing the same beat or song over and over. the cds you guys complain about on this site sell the best alotta times,like caribbean splash and the addicted series.

and why does it piss u guys off so much if u hear cham cham cham ke mixed 100 times? or if u never heard of a song before then why buy it? heres a tip,read the tracklist on the back of a cd before you spend money it. if you dont like it dont buy it and the dj will hear his cd sold like crap and try something different. there is not anything making u listen to every cd out there, and come on man in all honesty not EVERY cd is the same bullshit, majority are but their are some cds coming out that are worth something still.

and all yuh djs stuck on mixing oldies, should rock whizz idea. mix the new shit,whats stopping you? it may not be as pleasing to your ears as oldies,but thats the point of remixing a song in the first place.

 

damn jones u cudnt have said it any better!!!...and yeah i agree wid roger...no1 even knowz bout all dese hi-tech shyt...alot of dem are too lazy to look into new technology so they go out and buy da cdz den rather download it like us fellow users of "Mastahpiece.com"!!!...lolz...:tomatoes_cool:

 

There Isn't That Many "Oldies" Mix CD Thats Out There. Alot Of DJz That Mix Oldies End Up Ruining It. They Always Gotta Throw Some Chutney, Reggae, Dancehall, Etc. To Mess It Up. If Ur Gonna Mix Something, Then Do It Straight Out With The Same Genre.

And As For Mixing New Songs... Please. The New Bollywood Culture Music Sounds Horrible. Their New Singers End Up Sounding like A Half Deaf Punjabi Retard. Plus, It Doesn't Have The Feeling Like Old Music. IDK, But Oldies Have More Of A Sentimental Heartfelt Feeling Than The New Music.

 

THAAAAANK YOU !
like , i hear Khabi Khabi , w/ some ****in Stress Free Riddim ,
like =\
yo , these yute DJ`s don`t know what`s good , next thing
they gonna Remix some Bhajans skunt ,
Oldies are Oldies , leff it , leave it to the Professionals ,
but still , somethings are good just the way they are
remixing is starting to **** up Originality w/ music

 

lol buying rights to the music
roflll
no way in ****ing hell is that possible
you think when someone buys rights for music there getting it at a price so that they can sell it and make money hell ****ing no

i think micheal jackson had spent 50 million for the rights on some beetle tracks

i think raj and roger are hitting it and know what to do to fix the situation.
its hitting the stores that are bootlegging there the source of the problem.

i just dont get why they need to bootleg the cd, are they serisiouly trying to save paying 75 cents less then they would to the distributor.

if they were smart theyd find out that if they acutally try and sell the damn cds instead of giving you this ****ing look that makes you wanna rip there ****ing head off there body, they could sell a hell of alot more cds.

i went into a store last saturday, in which this guy goes, 3 for 10 im like ok nice, i point to burn de floor, and ask well hows it doing , how you like it, the idiot completley ignored me, i even asked him what fukcing cd was playing he ignored me mind you it was mine.

so it goes to show you how poor customer serivice those stoes have.
i dont know how roger deals with those assholes to be honest,
because those stores are ****ing thieves at best.

the only store thats good at all is rishi's but then again this nigga bootlegs way to much but hes always down to talk about the cd and gaff up and help you out to find what ever you need.

 

lol.................this shit aint gonna work.

 

hell yea man they dont even care about u all they want is ur money

i remember rishi's store that was the shit back in the early 2000's then it was luv music and fashion (hah go in there no and ask for indain mix cds lmao) and now idk all are the same the lady at bollywood trend is nice lol and the only place i seen with the most orig cds would be taj but his ass has those bootlegs in between so idk man lol

 

by oldies i mean classics,90's,old stuff w.e u wanna call it,anything that isnt new...but what do u mean there isnt many oldies cds out there? almost every indian cd that comes out has "oldies" indian on it. take me back when,start de session,party night,mastapiece 4,burn the dancefloor,wedding night. thats 6 of them that just came out recently.

alot of these guys do in fact mess up their mixes with mixing it with random crap, but someone gotta suck right lol,some things sound right some dont some reggae actually flows well with slower indian.

your right the new shit wont ever match up to oldies,i love my oldies. but its material isn't it? and believe it or not people like it. jhingree's session on we ting 3 sounds great in my opinion and its a bunch of new indian remixes.

 

Ehh some new stuff sounds ok but it'll never ever ever be as good as the oldies.
They're trying to become more western in the new shit and that's like those coolie people who try to be black. It doesn't work.

 

i have to admit one thing i seriously do hate,is when they try to sing or RAP in english in the newer indian songs : /. sounds extremely corny to me,funny to listen to tho. soungs like desi girl and love mere hit hit are big hits tho

 

BEST fukkin reply i seen yet. and Roger may not put out Love Hurts 2 but i dont friggin blame him. dude actually doin sumtin about this fukkin crisis. my ORIGINAL plan may not work but all d replys in here givin me ideas on how to MAKE it work. keep postin people

 

LOL thanks for entertaining the idea.. I wonder if anyone ever tried to do it? The industry is changing, the way music is being consume has drastically changed in the last 10 years. I think they should be special edition cd's or even implement an online code in legit CD's or a Buy one get one free offer at original stores. Video game companies do that with bargain based video games in order to sell popular titles. Offer the consumer an better incentive since they will gravitate towards the bootleggers in order to get cheap shit. As Jones said some DJ's love their mixes and other just want to push shit out there. De Joint, Mixie and KBIS are selling entertainment to the masses.

Look at what Terry McBride of Netwerk Records is doing with his artists giving them a bigger stake in the profits so that they can drive their sales. Since this is a different market and different clientele but you need to develop the brand into a lifestyle, a way of life and focus on the new generation of savvy consumers.

 

I think we should try selling our cd's bootleg so we save money in the making

 

This idea soundz so dumb and so funny!!!...lmao...but yet its really smart!!!...It makes alotta sense!!!...:tomatoes_laugh: